tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post6959275408375879478..comments2023-11-05T12:41:31.171+00:00Comments on The Kneeler: Disowning the ChurchAngela Shier-Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14293459698056190963noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post-36266810403673755902010-11-03T18:15:29.412+00:002010-11-03T18:15:29.412+00:00John..
you are so right!
Anonymous - thank you for...John..<br />you are so right!<br />Anonymous - thank you for your contribution - you raise an important point.<br />I guess by 'deal with' I mean perhaps develop a greater sense of humility both in our proclamation and certainly in our dialogue. The Church Triumphant and judgmental has done so much damage. Like you I do not think that I can apologize for what I have not done, and I think Angela Shier-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14293459698056190963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post-65734111672348153842010-11-03T12:01:49.361+00:002010-11-03T12:01:49.361+00:00Another way to "disown" the church is to...Another way to "disown" the church is to recognize that we do not "own" it. It is not ours. If more of us disowned it in that way, many things might get better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post-6484588284835757092010-11-03T10:26:06.715+00:002010-11-03T10:26:06.715+00:00I'm not sure how you 'deal' with the b...I'm not sure how you 'deal' with the baggage of the past. I really can't see what me saying sorry for something done before I was born can help - I just don't get that current 'trend'. Yes, our past shapes us but it doesn't define me today <br />SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post-74032466492513838642010-11-03T09:32:39.189+00:002010-11-03T09:32:39.189+00:00Susan,
The Church has a habit of historically rein...Susan,<br />The Church has a habit of historically reinventing itself - but we all know where it came from, and what it is, and is it not perhaps dishonest to try and disassociate ourselves from our past - surely we need to 'deal' with our baggage?<br />Anonymous - agreed denominationalism is the scourge of Christianity - it is the outward sign of our inward inability to accept God's Angela Shier-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14293459698056190963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post-56178053545349320152010-11-02T12:51:53.745+00:002010-11-02T12:51:53.745+00:00Hi Angela,
I take the church to mean any time/pla...Hi Angela,<br /><br />I take the church to mean any time/place where more than one believer is gathered together in the name of Jesus. I think the encouragement of our spiritual brothers and sisters is truly church, although you often won't find that in a church building.<br /><br />It's like anything spiritual which appears in the public square: true worship often occurs in the quietnessJoseph Whttp://seismicshock.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post-63952324814250633262010-11-02T12:50:27.153+00:002010-11-02T12:50:27.153+00:00I have less problem with 'the church' (bib...I have less problem with 'the church' (biblical definition) than with the denominational institutions. The rules they apply remind me of Jesus's comments about the Pharisees and their legalism. Too often, we seem to be trying to hide Jesus from normal people, with our strange buildings, odd songs, different ways of dressing and weird language. However, we are (by definition) part Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608545590914583474.post-35959264332253728842010-11-02T11:26:25.174+00:002010-11-02T11:26:25.174+00:00Often I too want to disown the 'church' wh...Often I too want to disown the 'church' when it does not bring the possibility of transformation to others - only criticism and condemnation for not believing what 'we'do... and of course 'we 'are right! I keep going back to the basics of Jesus dealings with individuals, generous, open yet challenging in love.. and then I also come across people of great generosity, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com